Re-Raising an all-in

Recently a question came about from a hand played at a Posh Poker Game. The situation includes bet sizes, and when you can raise or re-raise an all in. It’s one of the trickier rules of the game to figure out, and it’s often handled incorrectly. Jeff asked the following question recently based on this hand:

“So, here is the situation that actually occurred last night: 6 players in the hand. Blinds 2K-4K, pre flop…..
(SB – A, BB – B)
1st to act (C) raises to 22K, (D) folds, (E) folds, BUTTON(F) calls, SB(A) calls, BB(B) proceeds to move all it w/ 36K all day. Next up is player C, the initial raiser, who attempts to go all in for hundreds of thousands of chips. Can he go over the top here??! Sound off poker pros!!”

The question really is: “When is a person allowed to re-raise an all-in bet when there are other players in the hand”.

So what do you think? Many people think the action stopped when the person with a low chip-stack went all in because he did not have enough to make a “legal” raise. That *can* be true, but in this case it is not. The official TD rules are that if the all-in bet is at least half of a legal raise, it can be counted as a legal raise, and action is *not* stopped by it. There is a caveat to that rule, however… those who had just called before the all in are not allowed to re-raise. Only the person who made the initial raise, and then got re-raised may also re-raise. If the all-in hand had not been more than half the legal bet, he would have had only the option to call. If the original raiser had only called, the other “callers” would not have the option to re-raise.

To state that in a different way. If you call a raise, and are re-raised with an all in that is not a legal raise, you may not re-raise. If you raise, and then get called but also re-raised by a an all-in that is not at least half of a legal raise, you may not re-raise. You may never re-raise a less than legal raise that is an all-in bet if you previous had just called another raise.

Free Poker Strategy

Despite the fact that I have said that you shouldn’t play different because the game is free, but you should adjust to the situation, it’s easy to conclude that the situation in free poker is often predictable. Therefore you can easily come up with some strategies based on these predictable situations. Learn how your opponents play and whether they play differently because it is “free”, then make the adjustments to beat them.

Announcing a raise

In a recent episode of the World Series of Poker Europe a teachable moment occurred in a hand between Shawn Deeb and Daniel Negraneu. The video is on linked on this page (look for the video on the lower right), or you can just click here: WSOP Europe Main Event E04 5/5. Fast forward to about 3:22 to see the hand.

Negraneu limps in a hand with pocket 77’s, Deeb raises, and Negraneu re-raises by saying “I’m going to pound you back a little”. To those with live poker experience, that’s an obvious raise announcement, but Deeb, who is primarily an online poker player, accuses him of a string raise. He gets a little pouty too when after the floor is asked for a ruling, they side with Negraneu.

Not everyone knows all the etiquette of live poker, but Deeb, who has been playing in major live tournments for the past few years, should have known better. At any rate, it’s a good lesson for folks who primarily play online and also learning to play live.

Free Poker vs. Online Poker vs. “Real” Poker

(Apparently there are a few of you who read these… feel free to comment on them and tell me why I’m wrong or right or just plain nuts).

Free Poker vs. Online Poker vs. “Real Poker”

Anyone who plays Free poker regularly eventually gets into a discussion regarding the differences between Free Poker and other poker which usually refers to live poker, or poker for money. Recently I’ve had a lot of discussions regarding online poker too.

Inevitably someone states “You have to play different”. While on the surface that’s true, I don’t agree with the statement.

Playing Pocket Aces

How do you play pocket aces?

I’ve been intending to write some articles about playing specific hands for a while, starting with pocket aces. Last night, while playing at Tony’s, I ran across Aces when I played someone who had them. The way he played them was a way that normally I wouldn’t endorse, and in fact would caution against it, but he made the right play.

My opponent limped in, under the gun, with pocket aces. I had AKs and felt I had to raise in middle position. Of course he re-raised me which took me by surprise. While I eventually got away from the hand (after seeing the flop and the turn), he took a hefty portion of my stack, and to rub it in a bit more, showed me the winning hand. (Who can blame him, I’d do it too).

I’ve had many discussions on how to play pocket aces